If you listened to or watched the hearings on AB1576 yesterday and then read the various industry sources on the issue it was obvious. They always make it about HIV. The truth is that instances of HIV are likely only slightly higher in porn than in the general population but there is NO question that the instances of other STDs are astronomically higher. The only possible exception to that is crab lice and the reason being because everyone in porn shaves their pubes these days.
The FSC continues to hammer the notion that there have been no STD transmissions on set in ten years and most people, even ones in the industry know that to be false. Even if you discount the ones like Derek Burts (and I do NOT) who says he got it on set, how many performers have simply disappeared from the biz in the last ten years? We all know that there is a strong likelihood that there have been any number of on set transmissions but the bottom line is that when The FSC says it hasn’t happened they are being even more disingenuous than the people who say it has, at least those who say it has have people to back that statement up.
If this industry wants to shut this issue down producer paid testing AND Post exposure treatment is an absolute minimum.
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They Always Make It About HIV http://t.co/c3bezUIzXL
But if you have noticed lately, the mainstream press is taking the industry talking points as gospel truth, not even asking for any kind of verification of these statements. The recent LA Times editorial is a perfect example. The industry’s tried and true tactics of repeating the lies over and over again is actually working. The AHF refuses to even question the industry on these ridiculous claims. They think their message will win the day and they dont have to respond to the industry’s ridiculous claims.
As much as I hate to say it, the industry just might win the ab1576 battle in the end.
When Dianne Dke says no onset transissions is she talking about the GAY industry? Why doesnt AHF question her about this,,,,,because AHF will not ‘attack’ the gay industry with all of the zeal they could.
AHF is more interested in fighting battles than winning the war. IF they were serious they would ignore the straight industry and focus on the gay industry. With gay companies putting out press releases about hiring HIV+ performers, the AHF is ignoring the biggest peice of amunition in their arsenal, for nothing but politically correctness.
I think Diane better thank her lucky stars that Mr Hall didn’t ask how many cases of gonorrhea in the last ten years, or chlamydia, or syphilis, or herpes….
EXACtLY Mike, or how many current performers in gay porn are HIV+. Or how many performers go to places like West Oaks when they know they have caught a little something.
Watching the AHF now is like watching the government obscenity case against Stagliano, complete failure.
Jilted – “As much as I hate to say it, the industry just might win the ab1576”
In the most respectful manner of discourse possible I ask of you the following: Do you have a horse in this race? Are you a performer yourself? Is a relative or close friend of yours a performer? In short, why do you give a damn one way or the other?
yes Troll, I have a horse in this race. In 2004 I personally paid for every single test fo all 56+ people on the Darren james quarantine list, and arranged for the treatment of the three girls who were infected. And of course the ‘guarantee’ that I would be paid back never happened. In the ensuing years I provided over $600,000.00 worth of tests that were never paid for, even though the performers paid CASH or credit card at AIM before the blood was processed. Meanwhile AIM credit cards are being used in Belize, and OSHA attorneys are being paid to create IIPP plans for production companies.
As the person who also had access to test results from over a dozen other clinics, like West Oaks, and Coldwater Community, I know FIRSTHAND the ASTRONOMICALY high rates of std’s among performers.
Does that answer your question?
Troll, what is your horse in this race? Do you know where my $650,000.00 went? Unless youre going to tell me you got my money I could really care less what you think, say or do. Until I get my money I will continue to call out the industry, everything from my getting Isadore Hall into this fight, to working with others to give evidence of other illegal activities by other ‘branches’ of the industry.
Herpes is not an STD ? because if there are no STD in the biz why every performers say “once you are in the biz for a few months you will catch herpes because everyone have it ” ?
Lol, Hall knows better than to ask Duke about syphilis, GC, CT & herpes in a senate venue…he lets the sponsor attack that stuff in less public Labor & OSHA forums.
Still not ruling out Hall/AHF publicly pulling out the ‘discriminatory’ basis of PASS protocols and how they perpetuate negative stereotypes. The discrepancy between gay/straight protocols exemplifies how FSC appeases competing interests at the expense of their primary objective.
Straight performers won’t like knowing HIV is in the talent pool and gay won’t like being subjected to criminal risks of knowing their status. Meanwhile no one is being educated about the true risks and rewards of using PCR testing. Focusing on the ability of PCR to reduce window for acute infections ignores how PCR also identifies treatment failure to give ALL performers a true risk assessment tool. Focusing on the longer window with ELISA/WB they ignore and/or confuse performers about how these tests measure antibodies while PCR measures viral particles…two very different aspects of the body’s response to infection.
With more and more crossover performers & gay production ditching condoms the need to establish a uniform industry-wide testing protocol is obvious. Testing ensures straight performers aren’t working with ‘highly infective levels’ of HIV…sadly this option isn’t currently available to gay performers. Instead FSC perpetuates the myth that gay men are more irresponsible than straights creating higher levels of HIV in MSM vs the truth that HIV (like HepC) prefers anal over vaginal or oral transmission.
FSC ‘our testing works and ten years of no on-set transmission nationwide’ sounds great if you don’t know gay performers aren’t tested. Not testing gays to prevent criminal risks of knowing your HIV status can’t explain facilitating unknown risks for syphilis, GC, CT and HepC tested per FSC protocol. Sometimes when it’s all about something, it has much more to do with what’s unspoken than the repetitious message.
In my opinion and the opinion of several doctors that I have had the discussion with over the years herpes is a VD. It is just taken less seriously because the consequences of getting it are less severe than the other VDs. I don’t know if it could be accurately stated that most of porn has it but I would not be surprised if some porn performers do have it. I would not have an issue with requiring testing for herpes along with the other tests currently required, disclosure if a potential performer has it and let the performers decide if they want to chance getting it. Unfortunately condoms (which are a waste of time and money for the porn industry to attempt to use anyway IMO because they break at astronomical rates as referenced by Nina Hartley and others with much more experience than I) even used properly aren’t real good at preventing herpes as the sores can show up in areas not covered by the condom that contact is made during sex.
Tangentially on subject and part of other articles here recently as I have stated several times already recently I think the testing regimen currently used with a couple of tweaks (and the tossing of Diane Duke and her cronies out on their asses, turning over testing and verification to Talent Testing) is the best way to control VD in porn, not condoms (and I have even heard dental dams and goggles enter the discussion regarding Cal-OSHA’s attempt to run porn out of California which is ironically hardly being discussed lately). Condoms should be the choice of the performers, not forced on them by clueless government servants, a Baptist whore (Izzy Hall) and a world-class asshole that also likes to be pegged up the ass except with actual dick and cum (Michael Weinfuck) attempting to run an industry they do not approve of out of the state. Dental dams and goggles are just ridiculous to bring into this discussion but several in government are trying to anyway just to make it known that we aren’t welcome.
BTW the $30 million company discussed recently is Kink.com/Cybernet Entertainment, its owner Peter Acworth has already decided that if the Cal-OSHA bullshit and/or AB 1576 come to pass he is moving to Nevada. I suspect Intersec (Hardtied, Infernal Restraints, Sexually Broken, Real Time Bondage and TopGrl) will move as well although PD has kept mum about this matter so far. I think in the short term Vivid, Wicked, Adam & Eve, etc. will film outside of California but keep their offices in Chatsworth for the time being (although Adam & Eve could theoretically move their operations to North Carolina where their distribution facility is already located, filming there could be dicey but they could do everything else there without issue).